Comments on: The RIF Meltdown Strategy http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/the-rif-meltdown-strategy/ This is where your finance takes place Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:02:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The Financial Blogger | Financial Ramblings http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/the-rif-meltdown-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-2431 The Financial Blogger | Financial Ramblings Sat, 17 May 2008 12:11:57 +0000 http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/?p=51#comment-2431 [...] I show them the techniques. They realize how much they could make and taxes they could save (on a RIF Metldown Strategy for example). It is great to see that you can help [...] [...] I show them the techniques. They realize how much they could make and taxes they could save (on a RIF Metldown Strategy for example). It is great to see that you can help [...]

]]> By: The Financial Blogger » RIF Meltdown Strategy: A complete example http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/the-rif-meltdown-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-55 The Financial Blogger » RIF Meltdown Strategy: A complete example Fri, 25 May 2007 10:30:05 +0000 http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/?p=51#comment-55 [...] earlier this week. This was definitely a great experience. For the tour, I posted an article about The RIF Meltdown Strategy explaining how to withdraw money from your RRSP without getting whipped by the taxes at the end of [...] [...] earlier this week. This was definitely a great experience. For the tour, I posted an article about The RIF Meltdown Strategy explaining how to withdraw money from your RRSP without getting whipped by the taxes at the end of [...]

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]]> By: Mikael http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/the-rif-meltdown-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-49 Mikael Wed, 23 May 2007 23:09:09 +0000 http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/?p=51#comment-49 Mr. Cheap, they key here is to not invest in fixed income. You will never make this strategy profitable with a 4% yield. I'll work on an example with figures so we can all appreciate the technique for what it is. ML, I must agree that this technique is not for unsecured people. You need to be comfortable with all risks around any leveraging strategy. However, several individual might want to use the RIF meltdown strategy if they had leverage in the past and know how it works. Mr. Cheap, they key here is to not invest in fixed income. You will never make this strategy profitable with a 4% yield. I’ll work on an example with figures so we can all appreciate the technique for what it is.
ML, I must agree that this technique is not for unsecured people. You need to be comfortable with all risks around any leveraging strategy. However, several individual might want to use the RIF meltdown strategy if they had leverage in the past and know how it works.

]]> By: ML http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/the-rif-meltdown-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-47 ML Wed, 23 May 2007 22:08:33 +0000 http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/?p=51#comment-47 Any way you package it leveraging is risky and not for widows and orphans, or most retired people who want income, preservation of capital , and a low stress level so they sleep well at night.You are usually a senior by the time you are withdraing. Beleive me, when you become a senior citizen with a shortened time horizon on this earth, you do not need either risk or stress. Age and health concerns will provide all you need. Any way you package it leveraging is risky and not for widows and orphans, or most retired people who want income, preservation of capital , and a low stress level so they sleep well at night.You are usually a senior by the time you are withdraing. Beleive me, when you become a senior citizen with a shortened time horizon on this earth, you do not need either risk or stress. Age and health concerns will provide all you need.

]]> By: Mr. Cheap http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/the-rif-meltdown-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Mr. Cheap Wed, 23 May 2007 14:54:44 +0000 http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/?p=51#comment-44 Unless I've misunderstood this I don't think this is the best strategy in the world. If someone borrows $10,000 and pays $600 in interest, this will offset $600 of taxes they would have had to pay (ok, fair enough). If they earn more then 6% on their investment then they have to accept the risks that any such "higher yield" investments will have at a time in their life when they're least able to deal with risk. If they earn exactly 6% then they pay the interest (600) + tax (600*their marginal tax rate) on the interest in order to save the same amount of taxes (doesn't seem so good) and if they earn less than 6% they're losing even more money (since their investment earning can't pay the interest debt). The only way I could see this working is if the investment income were taxed far more favourably (but how are you going to earn prime level returns on such an investment? You're lucky to get 2% below prime right now on a very high blue-chip dividend, and there's still risk there - look at GM). Unless I’ve misunderstood this I don’t think this is the best strategy in the world. If someone borrows $10,000 and pays $600 in interest, this will offset $600 of taxes they would have had to pay (ok, fair enough). If they earn more then 6% on their investment then they have to accept the risks that any such “higher yield” investments will have at a time in their life when they’re least able to deal with risk. If they earn exactly 6% then they pay the interest (600) + tax (600*their marginal tax rate) on the interest in order to save the same amount of taxes (doesn’t seem so good) and if they earn less than 6% they’re losing even more money (since their investment earning can’t pay the interest debt).

The only way I could see this working is if the investment income were taxed far more favourably (but how are you going to earn prime level returns on such an investment? You’re lucky to get 2% below prime right now on a very high blue-chip dividend, and there’s still risk there – look at GM).

]]> By: Wolf Stone http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/the-rif-meltdown-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Wolf Stone Tue, 22 May 2007 16:40:27 +0000 http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/?p=51#comment-38 Ingenious...well not quite...but still very helpful..am gonna print this out and hand it to my grandparents !! Ingenious…well not quite…but still very helpful..am gonna print this out and hand it to my grandparents !!

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