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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.thefinancialblogger.com/a-few-facts-and-strategies-using-the-tfsa-tax-free-savings-account/comment-page-1/#comment-8634</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, good analysis I agree with you.  Your last sentence is not quite accurate.  the TFSA does not DEFER taxes, it AVOIDS any tax at all on investment returns.  The RRSP defers it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, good analysis I agree with you.  Your last sentence is not quite accurate.  the TFSA does not DEFER taxes, it AVOIDS any tax at all on investment returns.  The RRSP defers it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a tip.. 

The TFSAs true benefit is the fact you don&#039;t ever pay tax on the GROWTH of your earnings (either while IN a TFSA and when withdrawn)... My question with all my clients then becomes, why are we holding GICs and interest bearing accounts inside our TFSA when we have growth oriented portfolios out there?

For example: SUppose in 2009 someone invested $5000.  Let&#039;s assume they earned 3% in a GIC (goodluck getting 3% during 2009 on a one year GIC.  Now, calculating that through, you&#039;ve earned $150 dollars in interest income.  And, going by the comments in the above article, let&#039;s assume the poor people that the &quot;TFSA was designed for&quot; made this transaction and are in a 21% combined tax bracket in Ontario.  If this money is OUTSIDE the TFSA, you would pay $31.5 in taxes. 

Now, let&#039;s assume you had that $5000 invested in the market.  2009 saw a pretty decent recovery from the 2008 correction and let&#039;s assume your retirement portfolio as a moderate investor was up 20% - mine was...

This is a $1000 capital gain.  If held outside your TFSA, and paying tax on 50% of your capital gain, this individual (assuming they cashed their investment) owes 105 in taxes... ($1000 gain x 50% x 21% MTR).  

I&#039;m sorry, but paying tax on somehting that barely earns investment incomes is a small tradeoff when we compare it to the savings on our long term retirement portfolios.

Consider holding your short term savings goals in tax advantaged mutual funds (ie. short term corporate class investments) instead.  You&#039;ll net better than a high interest savings account and the tax advantages speak for themselves.

Let your TFSA do what it&#039;s designed to do and bring you the maximum benefits - defer taxes on investment returns - not small yielding interest bearing accounts..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a tip.. </p>
<p>The TFSAs true benefit is the fact you don&#8217;t ever pay tax on the GROWTH of your earnings (either while IN a TFSA and when withdrawn)&#8230; My question with all my clients then becomes, why are we holding GICs and interest bearing accounts inside our TFSA when we have growth oriented portfolios out there?</p>
<p>For example: SUppose in 2009 someone invested $5000.  Let&#8217;s assume they earned 3% in a GIC (goodluck getting 3% during 2009 on a one year GIC.  Now, calculating that through, you&#8217;ve earned $150 dollars in interest income.  And, going by the comments in the above article, let&#8217;s assume the poor people that the &#8220;TFSA was designed for&#8221; made this transaction and are in a 21% combined tax bracket in Ontario.  If this money is OUTSIDE the TFSA, you would pay $31.5 in taxes. </p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s assume you had that $5000 invested in the market.  2009 saw a pretty decent recovery from the 2008 correction and let&#8217;s assume your retirement portfolio as a moderate investor was up 20% &#8211; mine was&#8230;</p>
<p>This is a $1000 capital gain.  If held outside your TFSA, and paying tax on 50% of your capital gain, this individual (assuming they cashed their investment) owes 105 in taxes&#8230; ($1000 gain x 50% x 21% MTR).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but paying tax on somehting that barely earns investment incomes is a small tradeoff when we compare it to the savings on our long term retirement portfolios.</p>
<p>Consider holding your short term savings goals in tax advantaged mutual funds (ie. short term corporate class investments) instead.  You&#8217;ll net better than a high interest savings account and the tax advantages speak for themselves.</p>
<p>Let your TFSA do what it&#8217;s designed to do and bring you the maximum benefits &#8211; defer taxes on investment returns &#8211; not small yielding interest bearing accounts..</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Financial-Planning 10-02-09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival of Financial-Planning 10-02-09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Traciatim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traciatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can&#039;t find it on CRA&#039;s website . . . but here are two more reputable sources:

http://scotiabank.com/cda/content/0,1608,CID12360_LIDen,00.html#14

http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/RBC:SrkdN6wWAA8AGMDAE4s/services/taxfreesavingsaccount/tax-free-savings-account-faq.html#22</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t find it on CRA&#8217;s website . . . but here are two more reputable sources:</p>
<p><a href="http://scotiabank.com/cda/content/0,1608,CID12360_LIDen,00.html#14" rel="nofollow">http://scotiabank.com/cda/content/0,1608,CID12360_LIDen,00.html#14</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/RBC:SrkdN6wWAA8AGMDAE4s/services/taxfreesavingsaccount/tax-free-savings-account-faq.html#22" rel="nofollow">http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/RBC:SrkdN6wWAA8AGMDAE4s/services/taxfreesavingsaccount/tax-free-savings-account-faq.html#22</a></p>
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		<title>By: Traciatim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traciatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it was answered in the original CRA docs that I read, but you can find is also under the &#039;borrowing&#039; section on:

http://www.taxtips.ca/tfsa.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it was answered in the original CRA docs that I read, but you can find is also under the &#8216;borrowing&#8217; section on:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.taxtips.ca/tfsa.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.taxtips.ca/tfsa.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Financial Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Financial Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traciatim,

interesting strategy but I am almost sure you can&#039;t give your TFSA as collateral (the same way you can&#039;t secure a loan with a RRSP account.).

Have you read anything different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traciatim,</p>
<p>interesting strategy but I am almost sure you can&#8217;t give your TFSA as collateral (the same way you can&#8217;t secure a loan with a RRSP account.).</p>
<p>Have you read anything different?</p>
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		<title>By: Traciatim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traciatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about buying 5k worth of GIC&#039;s inside your TFSA, and using it to secure an investment loan on a regular taxable account and buy dividend producing stock out here. 

This way, you don&#039;t pay tax on the interest in the GIC&#039;s. You get a tax deduction of the interest on the loan, and you also get tax advantaged Canadian dividends. Also, you may end up with some capital gains if you rotate through stocks, but they are tax advantaged too.

Anyone know of a good place that offers low interest rates on secured loans that get secured by TFSA&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about buying 5k worth of GIC&#8217;s inside your TFSA, and using it to secure an investment loan on a regular taxable account and buy dividend producing stock out here. </p>
<p>This way, you don&#8217;t pay tax on the interest in the GIC&#8217;s. You get a tax deduction of the interest on the loan, and you also get tax advantaged Canadian dividends. Also, you may end up with some capital gains if you rotate through stocks, but they are tax advantaged too.</p>
<p>Anyone know of a good place that offers low interest rates on secured loans that get secured by TFSA&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Plasma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Plasma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about using the TFSA to generate monthly cashflow.  Since any return on investment is not taxable I figure that if every year I can put in the max (it started at 5000 but is indexed with inflation at increments of 500$) eventually the cashflow I get out of it could help out quite a lot in terms of living expenses.  The question remains, what type of investment do I go for to get the best monthly payout?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about using the TFSA to generate monthly cashflow.  Since any return on investment is not taxable I figure that if every year I can put in the max (it started at 5000 but is indexed with inflation at increments of 500$) eventually the cashflow I get out of it could help out quite a lot in terms of living expenses.  The question remains, what type of investment do I go for to get the best monthly payout?</p>
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		<title>By: MDj</title>
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		<dc:creator>MDj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link FB.    Great article btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link FB.    Great article btw.</p>
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